The Thesis Driven Leader Series is Back
Season two of our podcast and video series kicks off this weekend
The Thesis Driven Leader Series is back!

Thesis Driven’s podcast and video series featuring deep dive conversations with real estate’s top innovators is back for a ten-episode Season Two starting this coming weekend.
This season’s guests are leaders across real estate technology, investing, development and more. And we’re going to spend time with each of them to understand how they think about their businesses, real estate, and the future of the built world.
Season Two’s guests are:
Rukus Esi, Chief Digital Officer, AvalonBay
Adam Gordon, Managing Partner, Wildflower Ltd
Jamie Hodari, Co-founder and CEO, Industrious
Jodie McLean, CEO, EDENS
Roman Pedan, Founder and CEO, Kasa
Casey Roloff, Founder, Seabrook
Brandon Sedloff, Chief Real Estate Officer, Juniper Square
Sean Sweeney, Co-founder, Hall Sweeney Properties
Clelia Warburg Peters, Managing Partner, Era Ventures
Sue Yannaccone, CEO, Anywhere Brands
Season One—which you can check out here—aired last year and received over 100,000 listens across Substack as well as YouTube, Spotify, and Apple. We’ll drop each episode of Season Two weekly across those platforms so please follow us on your favorite:
Season Two is made possible with the support of Neutral. Neutral is redefining multifamily real estate with a focus on sustainability, resident health and well-being. For example, Neutral is building the tallest mass timber and Passive House residential building in the U.S with a state-of-art wellness club in Milwaukee. Beyond environmental impact, Neutral offers investors access to substantial sustainable tax credits and deductions. Accredited investors can explore available opportunities at invest.neutral.us or connect directly with their team to learn more.
—Brad Hargreaves
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